i went up to my cottage to ride quads the road ice, the hole road is 4 inches of ice. and i brought my friend troy up and we tied a sled up to my quad and troy was pullin me and he pulled me off a snowbank i hit my back on a telphone pole, landed on my leg wrong, and i crushed my hand. and then i whiped him off a turn goin 35mph and he flew off a snowbank and he landed on his buttox. and we went snowboarding and i flew off a cliff and i landed on my head. i screwed myself over on a few of the runs, but in the end i landed it. it was really really cool. troy wouldnt even try it. i remember kody tried it in 6th grade wen i took him there.